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Please be informed that this shit is well rAnDoM express your views on what you think C walkin really is.



Some Principals Ban Dance With Gang Ties
Teens: Officials fear that the Crip walk, a popular solo step, could incite violence.
By ERIKA HAYASAKI
TIMES STAFF WRITER

June 4 2002

The C-walk, a tiptoe dance that some people joke looks like skipping "hopscotch on crack," has caught on among teenagers nationwide.

But the solo performance dance, usually done to fast-tempo hip-hop and rap music, alarms school administrators. Because of its origins in a notorious street gang, some in Los Angeles are banning it from campus parties and proms. The C, after all, stands for Crips, a name supposedly spelled out in foot motions of some C-walkers.

"The Crip walk is a no-no," Crenshaw High School Principal Isaac Hammond said. He and other educators complain that the dance glamorizes gang life and could trigger retaliation from rivals such as the Bloods, even if most youngsters C-walking are not in the Crips, or any gang at all. Hammond outlawed the dance on campus and at this year's prom, which took place last week. Manual Arts and Washington Preparatory high schools, also in Los Angeles, forbid the dance, too, and will issue warnings or even suspensions if it causes fights.

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"We tell students you might be somewhere doing that dance and it could end your life, or get you seriously hurt," Hammond said. However, he and other principals could not point to any particular altercation triggered by the dance at their schools, and law enforcement officials could not recall any serious violence related to the Crip walk.

Teenagers know the gang started the Crip walk a decade ago, but say it will cause a fight only if performed in the wrong neighborhood and while flashing gang hand signs. They dance it for fun and consider it a badge of honor to master its complicated moves like the rap stars who popularized it--hopping on tiptoes as if weightless from foot to foot in a circular pattern with knees bent.

The school administrators are taking it way too seriously, young people complain.

"The C-walk shouldn't be a problem," said G'Angelo Glover, 17, a student at Washington Prep who was practicing it on a recent Friday after school with his dance competition group. "Everybody does it."

Kaylen Pandy, 14, a student at Crozier Middle School in Inglewood, said most kids "just consider it a regular dance. This is what kids do to keep out of trouble. We spend all of our time dancing instead of being out on the streets."

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Challenging Moves

Erran Daniels, 16, a student at Manual Arts High in South-Central Los Angeles said she learned the steps because of the challenge even though she is aware that it might cause trouble with the wrong audience.

"It's a lot of footwork," said Erran, who is not in a gang. "But you have to remember some people will get offended."

The dance is just one teenage fad that school administrators across the country have forbidden during prom season. Schools in California, Florida, Ohio, Washington, D.C., and other states have ruled out grinding, "freakin'" or other sexually explicit dance moves. Some Los Angeles schools won't allow walking canes, which are popular tuxedo accessories for boys, because they may be used as weapons. And most have banned music with obscenities or sexually explicit words.

For example, Upper Darby High School in Philadelphia and Manual Arts High won't allow the "Thong Song" or "Back That Thang Up," popular hip-hop dance cuts that have some scandalous lyrics.

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Hard to Distinguish

The Crip walk, which is most popular among African American teenagers, is more difficult to crack down on because it is not blatantly offensive like sexual dancing, and many adults can't distinguish it from other hip-hop moves, such as the clown walk, old man walk, toe walk, Carlton walk, heel to toe, and Harlem shake.

Plus, many adults aren't aware of the dance's history.

"Who is to know, if it's a fad, that it's a Crip dance?" said Anne Schwab, assistant principal of Carson High School. "It just looks like kids are skipping.... Teachers were laughing at how, kind of silly, it looks."

Schwab said the dance has not been banned at her school because it's just a fad. "There's never been a problem with it. Kids will do anything to get noticed," she said.

Trying to forbid the C-walk is not much different from efforts to stop Elvis Presley because he wore "lurid" clothes and danced provocatively, said David Upshal, co-author of the book "The Hip-Hop Years, a History of Rap."

Like rap music, rock 'n' roll was often blamed for "moral degradation," Upshal said. Even tame dance moves like Chubby Checker's twist of the early 1960s offended some grown-ups and were seen by teenagers as ways to rebel or feel cool.

Upshal said "forbidden" cultures, like those of gangs, are commonly absorbed into mainstream culture. By that time, they are not necessarily harmful, he insisted.

"The way we all dress and speak has been affected by hip-hop culture," Upshal said. "And some of those elements stem directly from gang culture."

Still, some say the Crip walk must be taken seriously, especially in Los Angeles, because of the dance's gang roots. There are hundreds of Crips spinoffs and copycat gangs in Los Angeles County and throughout the world. Law enforcement officials say Crips gang members are responsible for thousands of deaths and shootings.

Crips culture has become a part of popular movies and music. Rapper Snoop Dogg, a former member of the Crips, is well known for throwing up gang signs and C-walking in his videos. The 15-year-old rapper Lil Bow Wow has also been known to do an offshoot of the Crip walk during performances, but has denied being involved in any gang.

Gang lore has it that Crips do the C-walk after shooting or killing someone, said Larry Rael, a detective with the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department and president of the National Alliance of Gang Investigators Assns. Rael said he has never heard of anyone being shot because of the dance, and rumors about such violence may be exaggerated.

Still, he said, parents and teachers should pay attention to the music young people listen to, and schools should restrict such dances to prevent the "influences of gangs from coming into their schools."

"A lot of kids out there see that kind of stuff in videos, they see it in school and they see other kids doing it," he said.

Wes Daily, a detective with the Suffolk County Police Department on Long Island in New York, and a member of the East Coast Gang Investigators Assn., said East Coast teenagers C-walk too, but he emphasized that it is not a major concern. "If everybody was doing it at a club, I doubt very seriously there would be a drive-by," Daily said.

Some say it will be difficult to ban C-walking because it has become so widespread.

Deric Gainer, 21, a student in St. Petersburg, Fla., who C-walks and does not belong to a gang, said the dance is popular there with college fraternity guys and elementary school students.

High school students in Seattle say C-walkers are everywhere, but tend to be cautious when dancing in the Central District, near downtown, where Bloods hang out.

In Internet chat rooms, teenagers beg for tips on how to perfect the moves, while others share stories about C-walking at parties and school dances or during after-school dance-offs called "battles." But on the Web site http://www.breakdance.com, one wrote: "Why do you all wanna do this walk? It's not a dance, it's a gang sign. If you all ain't reppin' 4 tha blue then watch where you walk." Blue is traditionally a Crip color.

Washington Prep Principal James Noble, who has studied gang culture, said he must be stringent because the campus is surrounded by 17 active gangs.

"Crip walking is not done for fun. It is done to make a statement," he said.

Teachers and parents should be alarmed if a student does the Crip walk because it may be an indication that he or she is at risk of joining a gang, he said.

Charles Allen, 18, a senior at Washington Prep, said he understands that the principal wants to "keep students safe" at the prom. But C-walking is just too cool to stop elsewhere. Check out the after-prom parties: "There will be a lot of it."

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ummm wtf is this..??

i didnt read all of it....coz it sounded lke shit....why we wanna hear this anyway ?
its jst lke a mass debate on gang ties with *crip* walk.....

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<div align="center"><div class=\'quotetop\'>quote </div><div class=\'quotemain\'>HmongC says:
ur cwalk is so hawt, it starts to smoke at the end
HmongC says:
=O ur shoes might catch on fire some time</div></div>
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^^ well u shouldve read it then you'd know -___-"

mang.. only in america rofl..
they're so uptight with their shyt..

why dont they ban the colours blue and red while they're at it..
stupid ass american government..

they need to get their facts straight..
C could mean 3 things.. and each a different kind of dance style..
sometimes u juz wanna 5 finger slap them bitches lol..

its just stupid.. coz 98% of us do this for fun..
its just footwork or a dancestyle..

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tiptoe dance that some people joke looks like skipping "hopscotch on crack,"[/b]
^ who the hell does this guy think he his..
i think hez smoking some crack.. it aint no hopscotch.. you dont see us hopping on one foot.. or with squares on the floor with numbers in em..
hez tripping out.. stupid ass fool.

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Teachers and parents should be alarmed if a student does the Crip walk because it may be an indication that he or she is at risk of joining a gang, he said.[/b]
^ yeah goodluck with that.. faggot
people aren't all notorious as that..
maybe some people want to have fun and "try" and look good dancing.

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Schwab said the dance has not been banned at her school because it's just a fad. "There's never been a problem with it. Kids will do anything to get noticed," she said.[/b]
^ i vote her for PRESIDENT

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"The way we all dress and speak has been affected by hip-hop culture," Upshal said. "And some of those elements stem directly from gang culture."[/b]

^ go to hell..
go turn emo stupid ass faggot
HIPHOP culture FTW!
can't stop that shyt.. its spreading like a disease.

if i offended any americans.. i didnt mean it.. it was aimed purely to the government of america..
if you still think i offended you.. go diss asian's or something.. coz i'll be dissing them with you :D lol

PS: sorry for the bad language.. once again if your offended juz dont read it.
juz scroll all the way down

Alrite i finished raging
I feel better now..
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PWOAH. fark i just read all that cos it made me angry lmao! , effink stupid !
and yeah its like a mass debate likee jay.vee said !

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the only way this could cause trouble is if for instance a Blood mistakes it for the crip walk,now I dont see this happening because clown walking doesnt involve gang signs. Assuming the Bloods know what a crip walk looks like they shouldnt be mistaking the two and nothing will happen.Well at least thats what i think.


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LMFAO. man next (shynobee)

you were pretty uptight bout this fkn shit thing LMFAO.

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<div align="center"><div class=\'quotetop\'>quote </div><div class=\'quotemain\'>HmongC says:
ur cwalk is so hawt, it starts to smoke at the end
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=O ur shoes might catch on fire some time</div></div>
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yeah.. was bored..

but they take things so seriously..
george bush and his government should juz go bak to their supersized meals.

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all i can say is thats a whole lot of BS i read most ov it and makes me angry :angry: aswell as laugh at tha stupidity...y cant they come on this site and c every1 gets along 4rom all ova tha globe


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yeah.. was bored..

but they take things so seriously..
george bush and his government should juz go bak to their supersized meals.[/b]

^^ LMFAO. good one shy

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all i can say is thats a whole lot of BS i read most ov it and makes me angry :angry: aswell as laugh at tha stupidity...y cant they come on this site and c every1 gets along 4rom all ova tha globe[/b]

^^ yes i agree with that...if they came here to this site..

they'll be stumped coz lke i dont see any gang violence here agree ?

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<div align="center"><div class=\'quotetop\'>quote </div><div class=\'quotemain\'>HmongC says:
ur cwalk is so hawt, it starts to smoke at the end
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=O ur shoes might catch on fire some time</div></div>
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OMG, lol as first when i came to this thread i saw so many text and just scrolled down to it ended. lol then i saw jayvee's post and his right who the fuck would read that, oh yea shynobee of course ('',). damn sorry i cant read all that haha LMAO what a post uve replyed with shynobee.. nerd, :D ah just kidding bro ;)

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